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Well, here I am with some thoughts to share… Thoughts on cropcirclemaking ofcourse, that’s what we went for. To start with I can assure you that the cropcircle we visited was man-made. I should have brought my videocamera to the circle, not for filming the crop or the circle but for shooting the arguing men… one shouted (from a smaller circle) at the other that he had no permission to enter this smaller circle, the other screaming he knew the farmer and had permission, then again the first one screamed the other would be officially trash if he would be trashing the crop, etc, etc. Not a very peaceful discussion on this spiritual spot, but interesting however.

I must admit.. I was a bit of an eavesdropper… and it became worse… I was standing there, very close to the man who was now officially trash, just pretending some meditative staring in the wheat stalks but in the meantime listening to the monologue he was having  with a random visitor. He was suspecting criminal involvement and was researching the possibility of a gentleman’s agreement between the farmer (owner of the cropfield) and a local photografer and reporter of cropcircles. Aha!! that would be some evidence for my newly considerated belief on cropcircles. That morning when Mike told us about the new formation I was excited and at the same time the idea of a ‘cropcircle-industry’ popped up…

I didn’t give much attention to this thought but during that day and the rest of the week the ‘cropcircle-industry idea’ seemed more reasonable to me. Agreements between farmers, cropcirclemakers, photografers, microlightpilots, shops, researches, writers, touristic establishment etc. A well-hidden secret.  The nice thing about the man officially declared to be trash and his monologue was his interest in this case, he wanted to separate the real circles from the manmade ones because all the people who are visiting, chanting and meditating in these places, are cheated by this criminal act of human cropcircle making.

My question is: Do they always send a person like this in to have this sort of ‘gossip’ in a circle to keep everybody on the wrong leg??? I just love the idea of a cropcircle industry, they do this very complicated secret stuff for years and years, can you imagine? Chapeau!

Lovely conspiracy theorie, the only thing I can’t fit in is the fact that a lot of tourists camp out and do nightwatches… 

And if you think I have lost my spiritual orientation… I had not.. yet..

I truly believe we are not alone out here. If earth was a peppercorn and Jupiter a chesnut, you’d have to place them 100 metres apart to get a sense of the real distance between them. And this universe is only one of many. What about the chances that there are many more populated earths, just like ours, in other universes? And that’s just space. But I guess other intelligences don’t use cropcircles to communicate to us. They have easier ways… whispering in you ear in a way you’d think it’s your own thoughts 🙂

 

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Hey Karin,

How are you two doing… still under a blanket on the couch?

This afternoon I found some time to read your posts and the ‘order of time’ website you were writing about. Pretty interesting and this time-stuff is indeed related to what I teach in my ‘Tzolkin-courses’. For me the Tzolkin (or Mayan-calender although it is not THE mayan-calender, there is no such thing as THE mayan-calender) is about recollecting our connection with the galaxy… I realize this might sound a bit hocus pocus to you… but living with this calender synchronizes us with our spiritual path and gives us a deeper understanding of what it is to be a ‘galactic human’ on earth. So, I guess my perspective on galactic time is even a bit more elaborate then what I read on this website. 

Although I am very into uncommon ideas about time(perception), natural time-stuff, lunar, solar and galactic calenders I am not sure the only way to interpret cropcircles is to see them as an expression of alien or galactic beings (don’t forget we are also living in this galaxy and therefore are galactic beings as well) searching for contact and waiting for an answer. In my opinion galactic communication takes place at a different level and those wanting to contact us find ways, they are not waiting for a stamp in the grain. Anyway, If we are talking about this kind of subjects we have to go beyond the scope of our normal human mind… we have to think out of the box!

So, I can appreciate most things written on this site and in this article… And I’m sure the time-management/calenders we use reflect our mindset and our way of managing this planet as a collective but I find the cropcircletheory they propose a bit hollywood-like… (een beetje erbij gehaald, zou ik zeggen).

Well, are we getting any wiser on this cropcircle-stuff? I feel the need to visit one (not the best timing now) to experience for  myself. Everything I have read about the believerside of this subject is the same beautiful inspiring story, all echos from each other.

What to do? Let’s go plan our trip!  When do we have a meeting?

Hope you and Eise soon will be better (Let me know what you think about a distant healingsession, I know somebody…)

Love, Dees

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Hey Karin,

Love your summary!! and I told you sunday; For me it feels a bit like keeping up appearances when its about cropcircles… even a spiritual oriented person like me cannot deny that the skeptical arguments are rather conclusive. So, this is starting to look like a search for very strong ‘spiritual’ arguments and I haven’t found them yet. Maybe one day, next year, july or august, I am going to be an eye witness of higher powers making a circle (and this higher power is not you). At the moment this feels like the only way to reject the skeptical evidence we have found.

Unfortunately (well, not really) I am leaving for Paris tomorrow morning at 7. So no cropcircle news from my side the coming days… Did you read Percy’s comment? great video I guess, might be something to watch on our next cropcirclemeeting!

see you in a few days!

Byee

Dees

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Bonjour Karin,

You did a great job there during your lunchbreak… wauw, I should implement this kind of lunchbreaks in my life too! 

I just read the articles from skepp and skepsis and must say that I really liked the down-to-earth approach and humorous style… and ofcourse their arguments are very straight forward. At this moment I have serious doubts about the extraterrestrial origins of crop circles. Not much left of the croppie I could have been…  My common sense is catching up with my spiritual notion here, or maybe I should opt for a ‘commonsense spirituality’, that sound better to me.

Still I find it hard to believe that these highly complex and beautiful crop circles are made by people!

The teamwork and creativity that is needed and also the satisfaction after succeeding must generate a high vibrational energy, or flow, that makes the creation of a cropcircle a spiritual exercise in it self. So Karin, that would be a nice spiritual exercise for you (while I am doing my yogapractice in another circle) 🙂

What comes clear to me is that we are lightbeings ourselves… there might be no higher intelligence who will give us hidden messages in the crop to reach enlightment or something like that. We ourselves ARE capable of doing things that we think of as extraordinary, unique or cosmic. At last we live on this earth as a part of this galaxy, as a part of this universe, as unique beings. And the wisdom we need is inside of everyone of us, just open up!

the cropcircle makers (whatever species they are) give us a great example of something extraordinary we can achieve, they inspire… at least they inspire us to have this nice research en discussion!

Yess, back to business. I was at the library and found the book of Janet Ossebaard and some other. Started to read during my traintrip to Breda this wednesday but fell asleep, not much of a good job here…  I will get back to you on that later. For now there’s one question which is bothering me, about the ‘real’ and ‘fake’ circles (in my opnion all of them are real because they are laying there), when most of them are handmade, why do we not know the exact amount that is made by humans? That could be verifyed, don’t you think?

Have a nice stay in Madrid! Talk to you soon!

Dees

Ps. Our friend Bauke thought there might be a tradition of circlemaking in certain families… isn’t that a nice idea?

 

 

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Hey Karin!

perfect idea this teaparty! although I have read some stuff about cropcircles the last two years I was very inspired by our browsing last night and also surprised about what we found out about Hoaxers (people that make beautiful cropcircles at night). I knew there are some people who like to do this but didn’t know that about 80% of the circles are handmade by humans. To be honest… I was shocked! Until yesterday I was a believer. I love to believe that some highly intelligent and very loving entities or energies from somewhere far beyond our galaxy are playing ‘kiekeboo’ with us and leave some puzzles for mankind so we can squeeze our brains and in the end (when we don’t find the answer) open our hearts and expand our consciousness to include the idea of a small and beautiful earth as a part of a intelligent and living universe. Well, there’s still a 10-20% to investigate, and I can’t wait to be in a cropcircle and see and feel for myself.

Today I read about Tony’s microlight. Tony is a real cropcircle pilot, we can fly with him in his microlight and he will show us all the cropcircles. sounds nice… www.wiltsmicrolights.com

I also read an article in mindstyle magazine ‘Happinez’ (number 3, 2009) where cropcirclesexpert Janet Ossebaard was quoted. She thinks cropcircles want to show us something, a language we are going to learn. She says it migth be a transmission of energy we can experience and absorb. It might be about a frequency which will expand our consciousness. A higher frequency/state of consciousness which will change our way of thinking. Sounds interesting to me… I guess the hoax-shockeffect I wrote about wasn’t big enough to really change my beliefs.

Tomorrow I will visit the library and get back to you when I find some more intesting stuff!

Catch you later,

Dees

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